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El Dorado Rum –
The ultimate premium rum from Guyana

El Dorado Rum

El Dorado Rum showcases a rich legacy of tradition, craftsmanship and unrivalled flavour. Produced in Demerara County in Guyana, known for its centuries-old rum tradition, this exceptional Demerara Rum presents a range of aged options that captivate connoisseurs and enthusiasts worldwide. Whether aged for 3 or 25 years, every bottle of El Dorado shares a distinct story influenced by the tropical climate, careful ageing and the exceptional Demerara quality. Discover the unique character and versatile flavours that make El Dorado Rum the top pick for rum lovers at Drinkology.

El Dorado special bottling El Dorado age groups

El Dorado Rum 15 Years Old 0,7L 43%
El Dorado Rum 25 Jahre, 0,7 L, 43%
El Dorado Rum 25 Years, 0,7 L, 43%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€928.57* / 1 Liter)

€650.00*
El Dorado 21 Jahre 0,7L 43%
El Dorado Rum 21 Years, 0,7 L, 43%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€140.71* / 1 Liter)

€98.50*
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El Dorado Rum 15 Years Old 0,7L 43%
El Dorado Rum 15 Years, 0,7 L, 43%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€75.00* / 1 Liter)

€52.50*
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El Dorado Rum 12 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Average rating of 4.1 out of 5 stars

El Dorado Rum 12 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€42.71* / 1 Liter)

€29.90* €32.50* (8% saved)
El Dorado Rum 8 Years Old 0,7L 40%
El Dorado Rum 8 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€33.57* / 1 Liter)

€23.50*
El Dorado Rum 3 Years Old 0,7L 40%
El Dorado Rum 3 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€22.14* / 1 Liter)

€15.50*
El Dorado Rum 5 Years Old 0,7L 40%
El Dorado Rum 5 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€26.43* / 1 Liter)

€18.50*
El Dorado Rum 15 Jahre und 2 Gläser, 0,7 L, 43%
El Dorado Rum 15 Years und 2 Glasses, 0,7 L, 43%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€70.71* / 1 Liter)

€49.50*
El Dorado Rum Enmore Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2003 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 62,3%
El Dorado Rum Enmore Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2003 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 62,3%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€275.00* / 1 Liter)

€192.50*
El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 58,6%
El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 58,6%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€310.71* / 1 Liter)

€217.50*
El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Ruby Port Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 59,3%
El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Ruby Port Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 59,3%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€307.07* / 1 Liter)

€214.95*
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El Dorado Rum 12 Jahre plus Glas 0,7L 40%
El Dorado Rum 12 Years Set incl.glass 0,7L 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€46.43* / 1 Liter)

€32.50*
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2008/2019 Uitvlught Enmore 0,7L 47,4%
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2008/2019 Uitvlugt Enmore 0,7L 47,4%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€213.57* / 1 Liter)

€149.50*
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2010/2019 Diamond Port Mourant 0,7L 49,1%
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2010/2019 Diamond Port Mourant 0,7L 49,1%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€213.57* / 1 Liter)

€149.50*
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2010/2019 Port Mourant Uitvlugt 0,7L 51%
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2010/2019 Port Mourant Uitvlugt 0,7L 51%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€213.57* / 1 Liter)

€149.50*
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2010/2019 Port Mourant Uitvlugt Diamond 0,7L 49,6%
El Dorado Rum Blended in the Barrel 2010/2019 Port Mourant Uitvlugt Diamond 0,7L 49,6%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€213.57* / 1 Liter)

€149.50*
El Dorado Rum The Last Casks 1998/2022 Tri-Canada/Port Mourant/Enmore 0,7L 50,3%
El Dorado Rum The Last Casks 1998/2022 Tri-Canada/Port Mourant/Enmore 0,7L 50,3%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€414.21* / 1 Liter)

€289.95*
El Dorado Rum The Last Casks 2000/2022 Diamond Coffey Still aged in Uitvlugt Casks 0,7L 54,4%
El Dorado Rum The Last Casks 2000/2022 Diamond Coffey Still aged in Uitvlugt Casks 0,7L 54,4%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€357.07* / 1 Liter)

€249.95*
El Dorado The Last Casks 1998/2022 Diamond Coffey Still/Tri Canada Rum 0,7L 49,1%
El Dorado Rum The Last Casks 1998/2022 Diamond Coffey Still/Tri Canada 0,7L 49,1%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€382.14* / 1 Liter)

€267.50*
El Dorado Versailles 2005/2021 White Port Cask Finish Rum 0,7 Liter 55,3%
El Dorado Versailles 2005/2021 White Port Cask Finish Rum 0,7 Liter 55,3%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€259.00* / 1 Liter)

€181.30*
El Dorado Versailles 2005/2021 Sauternes Casks Finish Rum 0,7 Liter 55,4%
El Dorado Versailles 2005/2021 Sauternes Casks Finish Rum 0,7 Liter 55,4%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€259.00* / 1 Liter)

€181.30*
El Dorado Versailles 2005/2021 Red Wine Casks Finish Rum 0,7 Liter 55,4%
El Dorado Versailles 2005/2021 Red Wine Casks Finish Rum 0,7 Liter 55,4%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€259.00* / 1 Liter)

€181.30*

What is El Dorado Rum? Origin and history

El Dorado Rum is known worldwide as one of the best rum labels and embodies both heritage and outstanding craftsmanship. Produced in Guyana, a small country in northern South America, El Dorado represents the rich tradition of rum manufacturing in the area. Rum was first produced in Guyana during the 17th century, as the sugarcane plantations of the European settlers thrived and many distilleries ensured a constant flow of production.

Currently, Demerara Distillers is the sole remaining distillery in charge of producing the complete range of El Dorado Rum. The combination of distinctive pot stills—some of which date back to 1732—and years of ageing in tropical conditions crafts a rum with an unmistakable character. El Dorado Rum is made from molasses extracted in the Demerara region and distilled using traditional methods. The result is a rum that impresses with both its depth and variety.

El Dorado Rum is available in various age statements. El Dorado 12 years, El Dorado 15 years, and El Dorado 21 years are particularly popular. El Dorado Rum is typically aged for periods of 3, 5, 8, 12, 15, 21, and up to 25 years. Every stage of aging showcases unique flavors, from rich, molasses-based tones to fruity notes, which make the rum delicious on its own or in mixed drinks. At Drinkology, you can order these fine spirits directly online and experience the centuries-old tradition of Demerara rum for yourself.

El Dorado Rum 25 Jahre, 0,7 L, 43%

The production of El Dorado Rum

The production of El Dorado Rum combines traditional craftsmanship with modern technology at the highest level. The entire process takes place at Guyana’s last remaining distillery, Demerara Distillers, located on the east bank of the Demerara River. This distillery is unique worldwide, as it uses historic stills from the 18th century, including the famous Port Mourant Double Wooden Pot Still, which continues to play an indispensable role in rum production. El Dorado Rum adheres to strict international regulations, especially regarding age statements, ensuring that the age declared on the bottle represents the youngest rum in the blend, offering consumers transparency and guaranteeing quality.

A key feature in the production of El Dorado Rum is the use of molasses, a by-product of sugar production obtained from local sugarcane in the Demerara region. This molasses is distilled in traditional stills to develop the rum's characteristic flavour. Guyana's tropical climate, where the barrels mature at high temperatures, accelerates the maturation process and intensifies the flavours.

After distillation, the rum is stored in oak barrels which previously contained bourbon whiskey. Maturation in these barrels gives the rum its unmistakable depth, velvety texture and complex flavours. The youngest rum in the range matures for at least 3 years, while the older variants such as the El Dorado 21 and 25 years spend many decades in barrels to achieve their exceptional quality.

Thanks to its traditional production methods and long ageing process, El Dorado Rum is now one of the best premium rums in the world.

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The different ages and flavours of El Dorado Rum

El Dorado Rum offers an impressive range of ages, each with its own unique flavour. Whether young and fresh or aged for decades, each variant of El Dorado Rum has its own character that delights connoisseurs and enthusiasts. Let's take a closer look at the different ages and the associated flavours:

El Dorado Rum 3 Year Old

El Dorado Rum 3 Year Old matures for at least three years in oak barrels and is then carefully filtered through natural charcoal to preserve its clear colour. The fragrance of citrus and vanilla is accented by delicate notes of chocolate and raisins. With fresh flavours of citrus fruits, vanilla, and toffee, it provides the perfect basis for light and refreshing cocktails.

El Dorado Rum 3 Years Old 0,7L 40%
El Dorado Rum 3 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€22.14* / 1 Liter)

€15.50*

Dorado Rum 5 Year Old

This El Dorado Rum 5 Year Old presents a harmonious interplay of caramel, vanilla, and spicy notes on the palate. Its golden colour and light spiciness make it a popular choice both on its own and in cocktails.

El Dorado Rum 5 Years Old 0,7L 40%
El Dorado Rum 5 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€26.43* / 1 Liter)

€18.50*

El Dorado Rum 8 Year Old

With El Dorado Rum 8 Year Old, you can enjoy a rum that combines deep flavours of tropical fruit, vanilla, and oak. The aroma presents a light to medium body, highlighted by subtle notes of tobacco intertwined with caramel toffee. The longer maturation gives it a complex structure and a velvety texture. Its full aromatic spectrum unfolds when enjoyed neat.

El Dorado Rum 8 Years Old 0,7L 40%
El Dorado Rum 8 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€33.57* / 1 Liter)

€23.50*

El Dorado Rum 12 Year Old

One of the most popular representatives, El Dorado Rum 12 Year Old, impresses with its rich combination of heavy molasses tones and fruity notes of orange and pineapple. This variant is a delight both on its own and in high-quality cocktails, offering a perfect balance between sweetness and flavour.

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El Dorado Rum 12 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Average rating of 4.1 out of 5 stars

El Dorado Rum 12 Years, 0,7 L, 40%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€42.71* / 1 Liter)

€29.90* €32.50* (8% saved)

El Dorado Rum 15 Year Old

El Dorado Rum 15 Year Old stands out as a classic, masterfully blended rum. Its bold aroma features rich notes of dark coffee, candied orange, almonds, dark chocolate, pepper, and vanilla.The palate reveals flavours of honey, cedar wood, and grilled tropical fruits. This moderately full-bodied rum delivers a long, velvety finish, making it a delightful choice for both connoisseurs and newcomers alike.

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El Dorado Rum 15 Years Old 0,7L 43%
El Dorado Rum 15 Years, 0,7 L, 43%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€75.00* / 1 Liter)

€52.50*

El Dorado Rum 21 Year Old

With over two decades of maturation in bourbon barrels, El Dorado Rum 21 Year Old offers an intense and complex flavour experience. The flavours range from vanilla and tropical fruit to deep notes of cocoa and coffee. This rum is best enjoyed neat to experience the full depth of its flavours.

El Dorado 21 Jahre 0,7L 43%
El Dorado Rum 21 Years, 0,7 L, 43%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€140.71* / 1 Liter)

€98.50*

El Dorado Rum 25 Year Old

El Dorado Rum 25 Year Old is the brand's flagship and a real collector's item. After 25 years in oak barrels, it impresses with a fascinating blend of chocolate, coffee, tobacco, and toffee. The finish is rich and long-lasting, making this rum a luxurious pleasure.

Each of these ages offers a unique flavour experience that can be enjoyed neat or in cocktails. At Drinkology, you will find the entire selection of El Dorado Rums—perfect for every occasion and every preference.

El Dorado Rum 25 Jahre, 0,7 L, 43%
El Dorado Rum 25 Years, 0,7 L, 43%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€928.57* / 1 Liter)

€650.00*

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El Dorado special bottlings - Exclusive rums for connoisseurs

In addition to its classic vintage rums, El Dorado also offers an impressive selection of special bottlings that are characterised by special ageing processes and barrel finishing. These limited editions are aimed at collectors and connoisseurs who are looking for something special. Each bottling is unique and offers a deep sensory experience characterised by carefully selected casks and long maturation.

El Dorado Uitvlugt Special Cask Finish 2006/2021 Ruby Port Casks 55.4%

This limited edition special bottling is first matured in bourbon barrels before being finished in ruby port casks. The result is a complex rum with flavours of roasted bananas, coconut and dark cherries that offers a deep, long finish on the palate.

El Dorado Uitvlught Special Cask Finish 2006/2021 Ruby Port Casks 0,7L 55,4%
El Dorado Uitvlugt Special Cask Finish 2006/2021 Ruby Port Casks 0,7L 55,4%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€278.57* / 1 Liter)

€195.00*

El Dorado Uitvlugt Special Cask Finish 2006/2021 Madeira Sweet Casks 0.7L 55.9%

Maturation in Madeira Sweet Casks gives this rum a special sweetness and richness. Notes of honey and tropical fruit dominate the bouquet, while the flavour impresses with its depth and complexity.

El Dorado Uitvlught Special cask finish 2006/2021 Madeira Sweet Casks 0,7L 55,9%
El Dorado Uitvlugt Special cask finish 2006/2021 Madeira Sweet Casks 0,7L 55,9%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€278.57* / 1 Liter)

€195.00*

El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Ruby Port Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0.7L 59.3%

An exceptional rum which, after 13 years in bourbon barrels, was given a five-year finish in ruby port wine barrels. The result is a powerful, spicy rum with notes of toffee, vanilla, dark cherries and a hint of cedar wood.

El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Ruby Port Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 59,3%
El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Ruby Port Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 59,3%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€307.07* / 1 Liter)

€214.95*

El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0.7L 58.6%

This special bottling was refined in Sauternes white wine barrels from Bordeaux. Aromas of honey and tropical fruit unfold on the nose and are accompanied by a spicy hint of peat smoke on the palate.

El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 58,6%
El Dorado Rum Port Mourant Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2000 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 58,6%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€310.71* / 1 Liter)

€217.50*

El Dorado Rum Enmore Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2003 Limited Edition 2018 0.7L 62.3%

This rum matured for 10 years in ex-bourbon barrels, followed by a finish in French Sauternes wine barrels. The result is a fascinating rum with notes of honey, wood and tropical fruit that leads to a long, intense finish.

El Dorado Rum Enmore Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2003 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 62,3%
El Dorado Rum Enmore Sauternes Special Cask Finish 2003 Limited Edition 2018 0,7L 62,3%

Content: 0.7 Liter (€275.00* / 1 Liter)

€192.50*

El Dorado Enmore Ruby Port Special Cask Finish 2003 Limited Edition 2018 0.7L 62.1%

This bottling is characterised by its exceptional ageing in ruby port wine barrels after a basic maturation in bourbon barrels. The rum seduces with notes of dark berries, caramel and exotic spices and is rounded off by a long, elegant finish.

These rums offer collectors and connoisseurs the opportunity to discover true treasures from the world of Demerara rum. Drinkology offers these exclusive bottlings in limited quantities - an opportunity not to be missed!

How do you drink El Dorado Rum?

El Dorado Rum is incredibly versatile and offers numerous ways to enjoy it. Whether pure, on ice or as a base for cocktails - every age of El Dorado offers a special flavour experience. Here are some recommendations on how best to enjoy the different varieties:

Enjoy El Dorado Rum pure

The matured El Dorado Rums aged 12 years and over, such as the 15-, 21- and 25-year-old rums, are ideal for pure enjoyment. The complex flavours of these rums develop best when they are enjoyed without additives. Use a tasting glass or a small tumbler glass to bring out the full bouquet of flavours. A slight warming in the hand can further enhance the flavours.

El Dorado rum on ice

El Dorado Rum on ice is an excellent choice for those who want to soften the flavour a little. The 5- and 8-year-old variants in particular develop their harmonious blend of flavour and sweetness on ice. The coolness of the ice also provides a pleasant balance and makes the rum even more refreshing.

El Dorado Rum in cocktails

El Dorado Rum is also an excellent choice for cocktails. El Dorado 3 year old and 5 year old are perfect as a base for classic rum cocktails such as mojitos, daiquiris or rum punches. The El Dorado 12 year old and 15 year old add a touch of complexity to sophisticated cocktail creations such as the Rum Old Fashioned or the El Presidente.

El Dorado Rum for special occasions

The older and more limited versions of El Dorado, such as the 21 and 25-year-old rums, are true luxury products that are ideal for special occasions or as gifts. These rums offer an unrivalled taste experience to share with friends or for a special moment. At Drinkology, you can easily order these premium rums online and offer your guests or yourself a real moment of pleasure.

No matter how you enjoy El Dorado Rum - every sip is a piece of history and handcrafted perfection. Let yourself be enchanted by the diverse flavours and luxurious quality.

Awards and prizes for El Dorado Rum

El Dorado Rum has received numerous international awards and accolades over the years, recognising its exceptional quality. From global competitions to expert reviews, El Dorado Rum has been repeatedly honoured for its outstanding craftsmanship and distinctive taste. Here are some of its most notable awards:

  • El Dorado Rum 12 Year Old: Winner of the gold medal at the International Wine & Spirit Competition in London. This rum is regularly recognised for its balance between sweet and spicy flavours. 
  • El Dorado Rum 15 Year Old: Multiple winner of the Trophy for Best Rum at the International Wine & Spirit Competition in London. This rum is regarded as one of the best all-rounders in the rum world and is highly valued by connoisseurs. 
  • El Dorado Rum 21 Year Old: Gold medallist at the World Spirits Awards and the San Francisco World Spirits Competition. Its complexity and depth make it a favourite with international judges. 
  • El Dorado Rum 25 Year Old: This exclusive edition has received the highest acclaim worldwide, including several gold and platinum medals for its luxurious flavour and remarkable ageing.

Why buy from Drinkology?

When it comes to quality rum, Drinkology is your best choice. Not only do we offer the complete selection of El Dorado Rums, but we also guarantee first-class service to help you find the perfect product for your taste. Here are some reasons why you should buy your El Dorado Rum from Drinkology:

  • Large selection: Drinkology stocks all ages and varieties of El Dorado Rum - from younger varieties such as 3-year-old rum to exclusive, long-matured premium rums such as 21-year-old and 25-year-old rum. 
  • Fair prices: We offer competitive prices for all El Dorado products. Whether you are looking for an affordable introduction to the world of rum or a luxurious collector's bottle, we have the right offer for you. 
  • Fast delivery: Drinkology ensures fast and safe delivery directly to your home. So you can enjoy your El Dorado Rum without long waiting times. 
  • Excellent customer service: Our team is always available to help you choose the right rum or answer any questions you may have.

El Dorado Rum is a symbol of quality and tradition - and at Drinkology you can get these fine spirits with a first-class shopping experience. Order today and discover why El Dorado Rum is held in such high regard around the world.

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